Hey now! Tambor tops the index

Jeffrey TamborWith the addition of one of my favorite comic actors, Jeffrey Tambor, to the Recycled Dad Index, Van Morrison falls to second place for virility and Garrison Keillor falls to second place for recycledness. That’s right, George Sr. from “Arrested Development/Hank from “Larry Sanders”/Jinx from “Mr. Mom” is #1, no matter what the criterion is.

Tambor’s recycledness score (widest age gap between any two consecutive children) is an approximation; I could only find the year his first child, Molly, was born, not the day. But even if I’d worst-cased it (Dec. 31), Tambor would still beat Keillor by 0.36 years (more than 4 months) for recycledness.


For recycledness, we six tower over Trump

The newest addition to the Recycled Dad Index is The Donald. (I know he was ‘newsier’ when he was still allegedly heavily considering pondering announcing exploring running, but even on his worst day he has entertainment value.)

As you can see, his recycledness score is the lowest on the list so far, with a widest gap between two consecutive children of only 12.44 years. But his virility score is another story: He was 59.81 years old when his youngest child (so far) was born, so on this list, only Van Morrison trumps him.

Leave a comment or e-mail me if you’d like to nominate a celebrity or yourself to be added to the index.

Join the ranks of Keillor, Quaid, Jagger and — Janszen?

Image from the film "The Guardian"

This isn't Jeff, but he has actually done this job. Say "Thank you," America.

My co-worker Jeff Janszen is literally the only other recycled dad I know personally, so naturally I asked him for his family stats so I could add him to the Recycled Dad Index. He agreed because he is a cool guy and not afraid of anything (see photo caption above).

Now the index has four celebrities and two regular guys. I’ll be adding more famous people shortly. But you, too, ordinary dad, can get on the index. You just have to be a father of at least two children — although getting a high score is another matter.

Your recycledness score represents the biggest age gap (in years) between two consecutive children in your family. If you are a typical recycled dad, this is the gap between the youngest child of your first marriage and the first child of your second marriage. In theory, the wider that gap, the more opportunity there has been for you to get ‘rusty’ on how to raise a child from the beginning. (I admit that ‘recycledness’ is not really the best term for this attribute. ‘Rustiness’ is actually closer to the mark. Any other ideas?)

Your virility score is simply the age you were when your youngest child was born (you stud!).

Jeff is at the bottom of this short list in terms of recycledness, with a ‘generation gap’ between kids of 12.86 years. But at least he outranks me for virility: He was a respectable 44.87 years old when his twin son and daughter were born.

Let’s have some fun with this, dads! If you want to get on the index, just leave a comment or e-mail me.

Recycled Dad Index (Prototype)

NOTE (6/8/2011): The embedded chart is continually being updated, so it no longer matches the information in this post.

UPDATE (5/20/2011): Still can’t put script in WordPress.com, but if you click here or click the chart, it will open the interactive version of the chart in Google Spreadsheets.

Still experimenting with different visualization tools, but here is a glimpse of what I’m trying to do:

Recycled Dad Index - bar chart

Click the image to go to the interactive version of this chart

For each celebrity dad on the list (and me), I’ve plugged in the dad’s date of birth and the date of birth of each of his children. I use the data to calculate and display each dad’s recycledness score (the widest gap, in years, between two of his children) and, just for fun, his virility score (the gap, in years, between his age and his youngest child’s age). The recycledness bar is green, of course; the virility bar is the color of a pharmaceutical that may have a connection to some of these statistics.

If I could use javascript here, you’d be able to fly over the bars to see the actual values. FYI, Keillor’s recycledness score is 28.60, and Morrison’s virility score is 64.37.

My vision is to enable regular guys to enter similar data on themselves into a calculator in order to  see how they would rank on this index. (For these two scores, most of us can do the math in our heads — and probably have — but eventually I’d like to introduce more data and other kinds of scores.)

This prototype is in Google Spreadsheets, but I’m also getting familiar with Zoho Creator. Somehow I need to enable new entries via a web form. Ideas welcome and appreciated.

Nothing is what happened

As promised, the results of the Craigslist experiment:


Life goes on, happily!

Looking for locals

A year and a half ago, I started reaching out online to all recycled dads around the world via this blog. But that was a pretty illogical way to start, considering that almost no one knows what a recycled dad is, or even that the term exists. (I literally cannot think of any search string other than “recycled dad” or my name that would reliably bring this blog up on page 1 of a search result.)

So I’m trying what I should have tried in the first place: I’m putting an ad on Bay Area craigslist to see if any other recycled dads in in the area want to hang out. Yes, in person.

I’ll post about what happens, even if it’s nothing.

Who will learn more – you or Cameron?

It’s been a long time since I posted. But I’ve come out of hibernation for a good reason: to publicize this opportunity for other “old new dads” to help a marketing student in the U.K. with his research by sharing their insights.

If you are a recycled dad, please download this questionnaire, complete it, and e-mail it to cameronblack19@googlemail.com . I found the questions very thought-provoking; you probably will, too.

Here is the message the researcher sent me via my blog:

My name is Cameron Black. I am a  first year student at Bournemouth University, England and am currently studying Advertising. As part of a consumer psychology unit, we are doing a project on a new market segment that is yet to be explored by a high street retailer i.e old new dads. The main aim of our project is to discover what new products might appeal to men who have become Dads later on in life and what would help them to bond better with their children.

If you have any suggestions or any information regarding a product that you think might be successful it would be much appreciated. I would also be interested to hear about your experience of becoming a older or recycled father and what the positives from that experience.